Hi all, It is great to hear from other Xindy users, I was beginning to think I was alone. I agree completely with Konstantin's suggestions. We also had trouble beginning with xindy (difficulties in installing the package correctly and then in understanding the documentation). This is a great package and I think many people would find it useful--what about improving the documentation and install so that it could be included in the teTeX distribution? Even though it is excellent and designed very well, we need more people to be using the package in order to extend it and debug it. Things that would help xindy gain in popularity: the repository simplified and cleaned out, documentation simplified and extended with examples, tutorial and include the reference material from the developer's kit. one-step makefile installation These items could lead to bundling with the teTeX distribution, which would provide critical mass for xindy's immortality, including sort rules for more and more languages... --Tim Arnold SAS Institute Inc. Cary NC USA